is there a release window for full release this person has been out of the the loop for a while so forgiven if the answer's already been given, so there's no we've not publicly given any sort of release window for the full release yet we do have plans internally, however that doesn't really mean much, we've had plans internally for a long time and it moves around a lot, it seems like the plan so that we have for are probably going to be a bit more fixed now, than before but who knows only time will tell right now we're just looking towards update 8 which unfortunately I can't give you a date on that either, it's, but hopefully we can start talking about it soon yeah- I feel compelled to give something here and, I don't know all I'll say is that it's not it's not like it's not super far updated is probably not it's probably not super far famous last words, as as we know now it's not super far away yeah you have given dates though and I think you can give a date now, sure could probably just give another one yeah yeah probably like, yeah probably February it's already February February two probably February 8th I think that's probably a good date yeah that's a good day yeah maybe yeah go with it it's a nice round number oh hang on I'm getting a call from Stefan what's going on he says turn off he says that there's a fire fired there's a fire or something the office is fired yeah weird I don't know I think he's Swedish yeah weird yeah yeah well we'll check with the master story yeah yeah yeah it'll be fine, what stage is the game at at the moment in its entire lifetime if you were to guess it's always so hard to say because there's a there's a famous saying that like the the last 10 of your game is like half the game development or the half the time development so because the game feels like it's like 90-ish percent well maybe a little less actually because I feel like there's some content missing that should be there but yeah a little bit more than that yeah maybe 80 90 something like that but like wrapping that all up is very hard yeah but the thing is yeah but the thing is like our team is kind of split on working on different things like there's some bigger plans that we have further down the line, and you know people are already working on Futures things things that are going to be coming after update 8 so yep we'll see hopefully you know after update eight we'll be able to tie things up eventually